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Immature pro athletes

``We grow up as adult athletes, but we don't grow up as adults. And then we take all that competitive spirit we have developed, all of that self-centeredness, and we try to live our life away from sports like that. And it can't be done. When the game is over, you have a hole that needs to be filled up. What you try to do is get the biggest house, the biggest car, the biggest this, the biggest that, and you're still empty.''

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The impact of drugs

``Drugs, when you put them in your system, attack your character. They make you violate your values.''

Drug rehabilitation

``A lot of the people who come in to hear the 12 steps [of recovery] from me don't want to hear about God. But the first step has God in it, the second step's got God in it.... When I talk about recovery I don't talk about God. I talk about believing in something greater than you and caring about other people, then you get some God.''


``Athletes need love. I try to teach them to love themselves because the love they get from other people may be temporary. The love they get for themselves can be always.''


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``I think there is a big difference between religiosity and spirituality. I think religiosity is sometimes for people who are afraid to go to hell, and spirituality is for those of us who have been to hell and had to come back.''

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