'The Dark Knight Rises' Batcave rumors and plot hints from Gary Oldman(Read article summary)
'The Dark Knight Rises' may feature a Batcave upgrade and Gary Oldman mentions a 'Harvey Dent Act'
While we await The Dark Knight RisesĀ trailer (which will likely be coming soon ā stay tuned), weāve had little besides a few official plot details and a whole lot of rumors and speculation to report. Today, we have a little of both to share.
A new rumor from an unconfirmed source hints at what the Batcave will look like inĀ the reconstructed Wayne Manor. On the more official side of things, actor Gary Oldman discussed his role as Jim Gordon in Dark Knight Rises, and made a few statements that (in my opinion) point to small traces of Frank MillerāsĀ āThe Dark Knight Returnsā storyline being in TDKRāsĀ DNA.
Cosmic Book News is where this Batcave rumor started ā again, the info comes from an unconfirmed source and really doesnāt tell us anything too surprising. But still, here are the quotes from CBN:
- The overall design of the cave is almost identical of the cave of Batman Begins, with it being a basic cave without cavernous drops.
- The waterfall is still there.
- There have been upgrades with better lighting than the basic generator powered ones put up in Batman Begins.
- There is a whole new batcomputer similar to the set up inĀ TheĀ DarkĀ Knight.
- There is a weapons area where all of Batmanās equipment used in both films, plus new gadgets, can be seen.
- There is also a cabinet containing both Batsuits.
- The cave isnāt featured much in the film, it is has about as much screen time as the previous movies.
Like we said: even if this total RUMORĀ is confirmed in full, it really doesnāt reveal too much that canāt be figured out with a few quick logical deductions. Such as:
- Weāve known Bruce Wayne was rebuilding Wayne Manor after it burned down in Batman Begins.
- Given the time that has passed between The Dark KnightĀ and The Dark Knight Rises, Wayne Manor wouldāve been rebuilt in full.
- Bruce Wayne used the cave the first time, so naturally, upon rebuilding he would upgrade and improve his lair ā with things like a computer, weapons, suits, cars ā you know, the usual Batman stuff.
Not that hard to figure out.
To be honest, at this point, it would be a bigger surprise if Dark Knight Rises DOESNāT have a cool Batcave lairā¦
Gary Oldman will soon sizzle onscreen as a stalwart master of espionage in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, but while making the rounds to promote that spy thriller, heās of course been poked and prodded for any little tidbit of information about The Dark Knight Rises. In speaking with Moviefone, Oldman dropped a quote that is worth examining:
On the subject of where we find Gordon in The Dark Knight Rises:
We find him ā obviously I canāt give too much away because Iām sworn to secrecy ā but when we meet him, things are calmer in Gotham. Itās reminiscent of the Gordon that we met in the first one. Thereās a world-weariness to him, and even though things on the surface are now calmer, heās cleaned up Gotham with the Harvey Dent Act, itās seething underneath.
Now, thereās a lot of speculative ground that can be bridged, based on that quote:
- The idea that at the start of TDKR,Ā Gotham is a more tranquil town, where crime is under control.
- āThe Harvey Dent Act,ā which suggests some kind of law spun out of the events of The Dark Knight, and also explains some of the ambiguous images from the film that recently hit the Web.
- The idea of Gotham āseething underneathā the superficial mandates of āThe Harvey Dent Actā, which would explain the powder keg of mass chaos that Bane (Tom Hardy) unleashes on the city.
- The combination of Oldmanās quote above and Gordonās monologue in The Dark Knight RisesĀ teaser trailer, which suggests that he and Batman were āin it togetherā to clean up Gotham, until Batman āwent away,ā leaving room for Bane to rise.
This kind of scenario Oldman paints ā taken in conjunction with what weāve seen in trailers, or heard directly from Nolan and Co. ā begins to paint a narrative picture that contains faint traces of Frank Millerās classic Batman tale, āThe Dark Knight Returnsā ā in addition to theĀ āKnightfallā and/or āLegacyā storylines that have been speculated as having influenced the story of TDKR.
[WARNING 'DARK KNIGHT RISES' PLOT DETAILS DISCUSSED BELOW]
Weāve been wondering why Chris Nolan chose to set Dark Knight RisesĀ eight years after the events of The Dark Knight, and Oldmanās quote pretty much kills any speculation (and the alleged preview footage description) that Bane breaks Batmanās back immediately after TDK, and Bruce Wayne therefore spends eight years recovering. Hard to believe that a calmer, safer, Gotham would be the result of such a traumatic event.
No, it seems more likely that TDKR borrows some of the world Miller envisioned inĀ TheĀ Dark Knight Returns, wherein laws against costumed vigilantism (like a āHarvy Dent Actā, perhaps?) forced Batman into retirement, but had the unexpected side-effect of discouraging costumed villains like The Joker, who went catatonic with no Batman to fuel him (good way to avoid the Heath Ledger issue). When a new and more savage crop of criminals (called The Mutants) start terrorizing Gotham, an aging Bruce Wayne is called back to duty and once again wages war as Batman to reclaim his city.
Just put in a younger Bruce Wayne (no gray hair), swap Bane in for āThe Mutant Gangā in Millerās tale, and itās not hard to see how Dark Knight RisesĀ (from its title, to its depiction of Bane, to its thematic arc) could bear a strong resemblance to āDark Knight ReturnsāĀ ā mixed with story points borrowed from āKnightfallā and/or āLegacyā.
They kind of look alike, no?
But one then has to wonder: could the speculation that Batman dies at the end of Nolanās trilogy Ā be valid? After all, Batman faking his death was used in the conclusion of āThe Dark Knight Returnsā story ā so whether real (and symbolic) or fake (and reboot-friendly), might we see Batman bite the big one in TDKR?
Nothing better than some fun speculationā¦ Discuss your Dark Knight RisesĀ theories in our comment section for now, and weāll all find out for sure what the film is about when it hits theaters on July 20, 2012.
Kofi Outlaw blogs at Screen Rant.